Your powers--give them to me!

[lostonlifesroad.livejournal.com]

So, another one of those posts. Kakashi here has the ability to copy abilities from other people, provided he sees them under certain circumstances, and provided that they are certain sorts of abilities. To that end, this post is mostly for my easy reference. So what I need to know is basically, can Kakashi copy your technique, and what the details of the technique are.

1. If it is purely physical, then he can copy it. A good example of this is Sanosuke's futae no kiwami, which is just a special way of hitting things. No extra energy or anything is required, so it can be copied.

2. if the energy used to fuel the technique comes from within the user, then he possibly can copy it, depending on the condition below. Take Bleach. Shinigami's kidou draws on their own energy to use, while Quincy use enegy from around them. Thus kidou can be copied, Quincy abilities can not be. Another example are the alchemists from Full Metal Alchemist. They draw their energy in from outside themselves, so Kakashi could not copy this ability.

3. If the ability can be learned/is not genetic, it can be copied. This is the tricky one to explain, but I'll do my best. In Naruto, certain abilities exist that are born due to family lineage called bloodline limits. These cannot be copied. Examples off the top of my head would include telepathy, Shinigami eyes, and most of those "unique to this character" abilities. It's something of a grey area, so if you're unsure, list it and we can discuss?

So! Tl;dr: if your character has abilities listed that meet the criteria above, please list them, the effects, and the specific limitations, if you don't mind? Thanks!

EDIT: I should have made this clearer, but I mean specific techniques, particularly in the realm of the physical. Kakashi is a ninja, so generally speaking, he'd use his own fighting style.

EDIT 2: I'm specifically asking about abilities in damned, and the limitations in the game. This is because Kakashi would copy the ability exactly as seen, meaning he would have the same use AND suffer the same effects as the original user. Fail post is fail.


No one saw me post with the wrong journal. No one.

Comments

[laverinth.livejournal.com]

Let's see, let's see...

SAI - Is a ninja too. Hurr. Um... Kakashi could probably copy his techniques provided he had a brush, ink, and paper. :P

LEON - This one may or may not be tricky. Magic users in Leon's world are born with the ability to harness mana. The "Blessing of Mana," which isn't a skill that can be unlocked (such as something like ambidexterity). Magic also requires a certain amount of studying, so there may be some mental preparation required from the spells as well. I don't know if the energy is pulled from within or without and I don't know if the ability to use chakra would count as a similar skill - as fighters can use special techniques that may use something more along those lines.

SANJI - All his moves are copyable, I'd think. If Kakashi's that flexible. ;P

BROOKLN - He has no moves.

MATT - ......lol

CALLISTO - All her techniques are purely physical. ♥

[lostonlifesroad.livejournal.com]

Kakashi could copy the doppler effect from Matt. :|

[continuum.livejournal.com]

Er -- question! Possibly a stupid question, but...anyway. Are we just talking about very specific techniques? Because Angel, being a vampire, certainly has particular supernatural abilities (heightened senses and whatnot), but it's not really a technique per se. D: (And it's also never made entirely clear if it's something supernatural that powers a vampire or if it's a biological effect that alters the corpse once the demon takes over or...yeah. ;__; )

Oh, but physically, Kakashi could copy his moves, but they're nothing special. He's kind of a random mix of street fighting sprinkled with something that vaguely resembles martial arts. :[

Reno is purely human and again, is pretty much a street fighter. He's fast, though, if that counts?

Wash LOL, no. Not unless they somehow end up piloting a spaceship.

[lostonlifesroad.livejournal.com]

Ha ha. Okay. Heightened senses are a no, easy, since as you said, it's not really a technique. As far as super-strength and the like go, uh. I'm inclined to say no. It seems in the case of vampires something that is dependant on them being a vampire--something that would be genetic.

And yeah, looking for specific techniques. I'll edit the post to reflect that. ♥

[spirit-forge.livejournal.com]

Archer has two nifty magic spells, but the mechanics of his world allow him to draw on energy from within his body and his surroundings so I'm not sure if Kakashi can use them, although I'm leaning towards yes.

Archer can use "Strengthening" to enhance something. Like make a blade sharper or his reflexes quicker. His second spell is "Projection" and it's kinda like the transmutations the Alchemists from the FMA world do.

[lostonlifesroad.livejournal.com]

Okay! So I need to know what are the limitations for those abilities in damned, including what the ability does, and the consequences for using it. :)

[jei.livejournal.com]

Farfarello: His fighting abilities are physical/learned. His immunity to/inability to feel pain is genetic.

Leon Magnus: His fighting abilities are physical/learned, except for majinken/Demon Fang. The energy for the majinken/Demon Fang comes from within, AFAIK--you might want to verify with other Tales muns.

Sumeragi Subaru: His techniques are magic and partially learned, but having the power to use onmyoudo magic is at least partially genetic. However, that aside, to copy his techniques Kakashi would also need to copy the technique of MAKING the ofuda, which Subaru does in the privacy of his room.

Freyjadour Falenas: His fighting abilities are physical/learned, but his healing and light-calling abilities are drawn from the Dawn Rune and cannot be copied.

Tachibana Shito: His fighting abilities are physical/learned. If a Chika should ever come into the game--thus making Shito's powers accessible--those could not be copied, as they are directly tied to being a zombie.

Tokito: His fighting abilities are physical/learned. The super-strength in his right hand is a result of a mutation/the use of a specific drug.

[lostonlifesroad.livejournal.com]

Okay. Until I hear otherwise, going with a yes on the manjinken. So, if you could please detail what the ability does, and what effects using it has on Leon.

And Subaru...is tricky. I'm inclined to say no, since it sounds like what would be a bloodline limit in his canon.

[tyki-pon.livejournal.com]

Tyki Mikk: I think his abilities are genetic, or at least fall into that category. I don't know if you're familiar with the D.Gray-man canon, but his abilities (manipulation of the world's creations) come with Noah's memory (Pleasure, to be specific). Long story short, it makes him some sort of upgraded human, so I don't think Kakashi would be able to copy his abilities. Another aspect of 'his' power are the Tease, but they don't really count since they're merely tools, and he doesn't have them in Landels right now. So nope, no copying.

Scar: Aside from heightened senses (which are genetic since he's a lion), he has no abilities. Again, no copying.

[ellectriclights.livejournal.com]

OKAY. I'm just gonna throw everything at you and you can figure out what applies and what doesn't ^^


Anya: She's a demon, so I'm guessing her supernatural abilities (super strength, super speed, and super healing) wouldn't be copyable? But she's also got a little bit of talent with a broadsword that she has even when she's human, so he could probably pick that up?

Elle: Teh Lightning is genetic. Teh Ability To Sex Up Some Random Guy In Five Minutes Or Less is something she learned through practice and hard work.

Rose: No cool moves. Unless Kakashi really wants to learn how to fold clothes like a professional shopgirl. Or something :/

Brennan: Her skills are all purely learned/physical/non-supernatural.

[scarletspeedstr.livejournal.com]

And here comes comic science to break your logic! ^^

Flash is a speedster, which in DC comics means that he has a link to the Speed Force (an extra dimension of energy/speedster afterlife/whatever the hell else they need it to be depending on the story) BUT the link seems to be both a technique - as some characters have learned how to use it or acquired it along the way (mostly villains but it does happen) - and genetic, as some characters have inherited it.

SO, UH, IN NARUTO TERMS: The link is the technique learned and used (and sometimes inherited), with the Speed Force itself just providing fuel and stuff to stop them from going splat all over the scenery. And to be a deus ex machina.

SO I DON'T KNOW. It could really go either way. XP WHAT DO YOU WANT?

[lostonlifesroad.livejournal.com]

Simpler answers? ♥

UM. Actually, I'm going to say no. Naruto canon is pretty specific about the ability to use natural (outside) energy being specific and difficult, and needing-a-frog-to-merge-with, so even though it CAN be learned, it still falls under the category of requiring forces outside himself.

Thank you anyway though!

[thatdamnedninja.livejournal.com]

Yuffie is a bit of an interesting one, because of her Limit Breaks. While she does 'learn' them, they're specific to herself and herself alone. There's a chance that there's some genetic requirement... 'unlocking' and 'perfecting' might be a better term to use, rather than 'learning'. I'm really not sure (SORRY). :|

(I think it may be possible for people in FFVII to 'adopt' and 'adapt' some elements of another person's Limit Breaks, but I really don't know.)

Ummm, as another note... while I do believe that the power behind Limit Breaks comes from within, they require outside stimulus of some kind. I'm not sure how you'd factor that into this whole... thing.

Anyway, as for what Yuffie's Limit Breaks can do, there's some information on that here (http://thatdamnedninja.livejournal.com/2222.html). If you need more, just say so!

I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING CONFUSING.

[lostonlifesroad.livejournal.com]

Hard to say. I'll think about it, but what exactly do you mean by outside stimulus?

[notachick.livejournal.com]

Okita: Abilities are all physical and can be learned. I think you know what he's capable of.

Ritsuka: There's no indication of how the Spell Battles really work, but I'm going to assume it's genetic to a certain point and random to another. He'd need to copy both Soubi's and Ritsuka's power to get it to work though, and I think that while the power is honed, it might not be able to be copied? No idea. D: I don't know what Kakashi would want with Ritsuka's power anyway. Fail Sacrifice is fail.

Mori: Kendo champion - learned abilities. Hooo.

Grell: I'm going to say no on copying for his Cinematic Record (not that he can use it) because it's an inherent to death gods ability that requires the use of a deathscythe.

[zalia.livejournal.com]

Ed: Like you said, alchemy is pretty much a no I think, since they draw on energy from outside, as well as from inside themselves (more inside themselves in Landel's I'm guessing, since they're cut off from the gate). But his martial arts skills are learned.

Yohji: Assuming Yohji got a wire, then Kakashi could copy his use of it.

Kenren: No special moves really, his shooting would be copyable I guess?

Rangiku: Can copy kidou and probably sword skills, assuming the skill wasn't something involving her Shikai.

Argilla: While she can use magic at Landel's, Kakashi wouldn't be able to copy it. Magic in her world requires a person to be infected with the Demon Virus, with all of the cannibalism which comes with it. Assuming she ever got hold of a gun, Kakashi could snipe?

Allelujah: No special moves. Not without a Gundam and a split personality at least XD

[famira.livejournal.com]

Clark Kent - Is an alien. I'm assuming his powers are genetic though, since when he's on Earth and fueled by the yellow sun like some overgrown battery, he's able to use specific powers.

Qui-Gon Jinn - He draws his power from the Force (outside), but there's specific techniques to how he uses it and his fighting style. His fighting style is Form IV Ataru.

Eddie Brock - Powers are entirely genetic. No special moves.

Dean Winchester - No specific, special moves, unless you count being good at brawling and a good shot moves.

[contentincloset.livejournal.com]

Kurogane: You'd need a sword to use any, but he's copyable.

Brook: You'd need a sword again, but still copyable.

Donna: *snort*

[zalia.livejournal.com]

Well, y'know... if Kakashi ever needs a temping job...

[gentiana-clusii.livejournal.com]

Ken: Ken's physical fighting style is a combination of martial arts and flat out brawling--whatever works. He's not exactly refined in that regard. XD Kakashi could copy his mad soccer skillz if ever he felt a need to though.

Toboe: Any abilities Toboe has is connected to the whole being a wolf thing.

[uwaaaah.livejournal.com]

I love how I see this post on my f-list shortly after answering all the other posts.

Well, I dunno, if you want to fight like an unprofessional jelly bean (which Danny sometimes does, despite his improvements), then yeah, you can copy Danny's physical moves. But otherwise, you can't copy Danny's moves or abilities. And here I had written a slightly tl;dr thing on his powers for you! His ghost powers are all genetic.

So if Kakashi wants to use some amateur punches, he's free to do so! 8D

[light-wicca.livejournal.com]

Willow: Has magic. Definitely not physical. She draws the power from... well, pretty much everywhere, although a good deal of it does come from within. It's learned and not genetic, but the canon implies that your limits for powerful spells are sort of inherent. Like, you can't go beyond the limit you've had since you started practicing magic. So... not copyable, I think, but take your pick?~

Melissa: Has a kind of telepathy she calls mindcasting. It's not physical, all the power comes from within, and... well, it's kind of genetic, in the sense that she's had it since birth due to certain circumstances surrounding the birth. It's not learned, though. So I'm pretty sure that's not copyable. :D

[screwthegods]

Melissa is a no, yeah. As for Willow, it's where the whole issue of what Naruto considers chakra would be translated to in other canons. Chakra is defined as the physical energy of the body and spiritual energy gained through training and other experiences in Kakashi's canon. Using chakra, the ninja can perform a myraid of abilities, usually focused on element manipulation. Kakashi's been shown to be able to manipulate four of the five elements recognized by Naruto canon (fire, earth, water, and lightning), with an affinity for lightning. Magic doesn't exist in their world, but chakra has a lot of the same properties magic would, I think.

Also, Kakashi would only be copying what he saw in damned, so Willow's limits as far as spells go would be Kakashi's limits if he was able to copy the ability. In regards to that, Kakashi is actually something of a prodigy so far as chakra use goes, so I'm not so worried about the limit on spells you mentioned. I know nothing about Willow's canon (Angel, right?), so I think the biggest question is, would the magic fueled strictly by her own power (because Kakashi can't use energy other than his own) be comparable to chakra as defined above?

Yay complicated!

[tiassa]

Yue's powers definitely use his energy. He has the fancy glowy blue bow thing, and he can make a handful of entirely useless but pretty snowflakes, both of which should be copy-able. His only special physical fighting abilities basically involved putting power behind blows and he can't do that here, so. Not helpful.

Hanatarou has the healing abilities which I'd imagine could be copied. The flailing and tripping over things are his, though. :|

Ayumu...heh. Well, I think you know what she can do. And I doubt any of it could be copied since she isn't a MAGIC NINJA.

[miltia.livejournal.com]

Crane: Not unless Kakashi wants the ability to piss people off by acting like a know-it-all.

Junior: His abilities are genetic and special to his family, so they couldn't be copied.

Matsuda: ...I highly doubt he'll be shooting a gun any time soon. XD

Mitsuru: I don't think he'd want to copy her fighting moves, unless he likes kicking other guys where it hurts. :| Also, while she doesn't have access to it currently -- and there will need to be lots of discussion with the mods beforehand if she ever gets access, anyway -- Personas can be gotten by everyone under the right circumstances, so long as they have the Potential. It could maybe be copied, but I'm thinking probably not.

[kanara.livejournal.com]

Hinamori Momo: shinigami - she can use any kidou in Damned into the level 30s including healing and White Crawl. I reference this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kid%C5%8D) for the effects since kidou is so varied. Shunpou could be learned as well if she ever uses it and I'm not sure about spirit threads as that seems to me more like the blood-line limits than a technique, since they're part of just being shinigami, and not something learned.

Beatrix Kiddo: She's purely physical and has four things that would fall under any kind of special techniques. First is the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique (which she hasn't an probably will never use) where she strikes five specific places on a person's chest and then after the target takes five steps, the target's heart explodes. She has the eye plucking move, the punch through a few inches thick of wood from an inch away move and the leap up and brace herself against the ceiling move. I know, the names of the moves are so cool, everyone wants to know them. :P

Falis: In Damned, Falis is purely a physical fighter except when she berserks. I really don't know where her 'zerking falls under your categories as its origin is never explained in canon. What happens is if she takes enough damage, she suddenly stops feeling any pain, her speed and strength pop to supernatural limits, except when certain circumstances are met, she can't distinguish between friend and foe and destroys anything that moves in her way. The pupils of her eyes, when she 'zerks turn into vertical slits. It's like she's possessed by a demon, but she's not (even if she equates it to that). It seems very specific/not-generic to me and certainly can't be taught to anyone else, but I really don't know if Kakashi could copy it.

Sheena Fujibayashi: Sheena is ninja and in damned she has access to some of her techniques. All of her techniques require focus through her spell cards/ofuda which only she knows as it's a secret passed down through generations in Mizuho, blah, blah, blah. You get the picture. Should Kakshi get his hands on one of Sheena's working cards or learns the card making skill, he could easily copy her techniques. Should she end up on SC and use her Sylva/Tethe Seals or summons, Kakashi could not learn those as they require the elemental summoner pacts which he does not possess as well as they use external mana whereas the techniques use internal mana.

I hope I was thorough enough. Feel free to poke me for more info.^^

[jennifer.livejournal.com]

Edgeworth: Well, if Kakashi wants to learn how to point dramatically...

Shiki: It's highly unlikely that she will ever be able to use her psychs in Damned, since in order for them to work, she would need to have a specific partner (no, Lost and Found doesn't count; it has to be a pact with one person) and Mr. Mew. If she does ever get both, I'd need to discuss it with the mods, but there's no reason I can think of why he wouldn't pick up on how to use them. It's implied that everyone in the UG can use psychs, at least, so.

Akihiko: His boxing skills are fair game for Kakashi to copy. As for his Persona, he doesn't have access to it right now. I'm inclined to agree that if he does get access to it, it might not be able to be copied, though.

[see-my-back.livejournal.com]

Okay... let's see...

Gin - Kidou stuff. Since he's without zanpakutou it's hard for him to use much else ^^;

Fai - I'm guessing that if Kakashi can use kidou by learning it, he might be able to use the same kind of magic as Fai? It comes from within him, but the power/ability to do it in the first place is genetic... so far as I know? So... maybe discuss for this one?

Kagura just uses regular martial arts and Allen doesn't really have a specific fighting style... Honey is almost a ninja by himself... he knows many different forms of martial art, but the canon doesn't really give him any specific attacks/techniques.

Sakura has her medical jutsu and her power-house punches courtesy of Tsunade.

I think that's everyone!

[lostonlifesroad.livejournal.com]

Just so I remember (because I'll absolutely need the reminder), per discussion, Fai is a no.

[whiteychan.livejournal.com]

Query...would he suffer from the same negative effects characters in landel suffer? i.e. the Bleach shinigami all suffer extensive internal injury when using Kidou or flashstep. Would he suffer the same injuries?

[lostonlifesroad.livejournal.com]

He would! Kakashi's copies the ability exactly, which means the original effects would be ones he would also suffer. Which...I guess I didn't make clear enough? Oops.

[clockmongler.livejournal.com]

Uuuuuum, time controlling and stuff like that would be a no, but the card throwing could be copied? :D; IDK

And, you know. If he wanted to learn how to be really bad at hiding homoerotic feelings for his best friend.

[strayfag]

Orihime - What do you think about this one? Her ShunShunRikka technically falls under kidou if I'm not mistaken but kinda requires the use of her hairclips.

Badou - ...lol. If he got some guns maybe.

[lostonlifesroad.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'm pretty inclined to say Orihime's ability is limited to her, because of the hairclips. Same for Shinigami and their swords.

[neutral-jing.livejournal.com]

Ken Amada has spear techniques Kakashi could copy. Persona abilities, on the other hand, no. Certain "psychological" conditions must be met to obtain and control a Persona, even then, the power is individualized to the user.

Toph and her earthbending is up-for-grabs, methinks, since bending seems to draw from a person's chakra, which anyone would have. (I think you know the canon, right?) In Landel's, she's restricted to breaking weak stone or metal, no other bending. Her ability to sense vibrations...I'm actually not sure. I want to say yes on the account that Aang learned it. Your call, though.

Kristoph has manicure techniques that can be copied. 8D

[lostonlifesroad.livejournal.com]

AWESOME. I forgot about Avatar :) Which yes, would be a yes on all counts.

[grosse-sklaven.livejournal.com]

Let's see... Roland, like Argilla, has elemental spells that require being infected by a demon virus, so there isn't much that could be learned from him. By the same token, Xigbar's teleportation is a power that's based on him being a Nobody, though Kakashi could probably copy his awesome snipage skills. Joshua doesn't have any powers at the moment, though if he got a focus for his telekinesis... I dunno if it could be copied or not. Using psyches is a bit of a gray area, as anyone can use it so long as they have the right focus, so... mrgh, dunno.

Adelheid, on the other hand, has a mix of abilities. He has FMA alchemy, which isn't copyable. However, he also has ki (not to say chakra) energy blasts and what-not, such as what he's doing in my icon, which are easily copyable by Kakashi. He also has an inherent bloodline ability to copy abilities, much like Sharingan in execution. They should meet up and copy/paste each other's abilities!

[lostonlifesroad.livejournal.com]

Ha ha, yes. And really tick off some Uchihas. :D And very cool. Thank you!