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Asch could go either way on this. He could be like "Rawr, bitch, who the fuck do you think you are?"

Or he could be like "wtf, I can't fight with this stupid scalpel. WHATEVERS, MELLO, I'm outta here."

THOUGHTS? D:

What Elisabeth and I had come up with was that Mello and Asch would go along their merry way and, to make up for having not realized that Donna was still in the hallway ~~and keeping me from posting for a bit!~~, Donna would come into the thread and take a pipe across the back of Meche's skull.

The threads should work as Mello, Asch and Teisel being in the record room while a Donna -> Meche (getting knocked out) -> ZEX thread would take place out in the hallway. Donna knows ZEX anyway, so things can work out.

If, however, Mello is going to be a stubborn little man, Donna can come into the thread and club Meche anyway, but let's avoid a large thread if at all possible, please?

This works for me. ~~I am slightly alsjdhjkgjhdf about huge threads with a zillion people anyway, oops?~~

I know ZEX is going to NOT be happy at all about Mello sticking around, and he's probably going to tell Teisel to just go and get the files whatever let's just go, and if both Asch and Teisel leave, then that leaves Mello-ZEX-Meche, and then Donna pops in and whacks Meche, is that the basic idea? :O cause that'd keep the threads fairly short, right?

This also works for me. Asch can be like "Yeah, fuck you guys, I'm out," and just...take Teisel with him to get the files. Though he might not ask Mello which files he wants if he gets mad. 8D

...no, but really, that's fine with me. This might make the most sense?

That could work. Aside from getting files, Mello has no desire to fight Meche...he's only annoyed now because of how she spoke to him, heh, and he's touchy about being talked down to.

If the others went for the file room and Mello stayed with Zex and Meche, he'd leave the entry room when Asch and Teisel returned, assuming Zex was free to go as well. If the fighting between Donna and Meche is supposed to happen while Asch and Teisel are in the file room, it'd make the threads a bit longer, but still manageable (Mello probably wouldn't be doing much). And I assume Donna would be gone by the time the others emerge from the room?

Or am I misreading this? Sorry, long day.

I know that ZEX'll want to leave as soon as they've got the files. If the whole file thing goes down fairly quickly and they just leave, then maybe that'd leave Donna and Meche to themselves? Otherwise, if there's a Donna-Meche-Mello-ZEX thread, ZEX probably won't be getting involved in it either, and would probably go to find Teisel and just get out of the way (maybe even drop out of the thread, if that'd help speed things up?).

So it could go either way, really? ZEX can really go either way with this, he's not going to be going anywhere right away. |D

IIRC, we didn't clarify when Donna was coming, but I think it would have been during the Meche-ZEX situation (since Donna-mun mentioned knowing ZEX, so it would make even more sense for Donna to come help him out with a pipe to the back of Meche's head).

Hahaha that's true, although that'll be a bit awkward when ZEX is all NO WAIT I'VE GOT THIS ALL UNDER CONTROL EVERYONE CALM DOWN D: oh dear

REALLY WHENEVER SHE WANTS TO SHOW UP, ZEX'LL ROLL WITH IT |D

See, my frustration here is that these plans all seem to hinge on my character doing a series of things that are very ooc for him, and not only was I not consulted during the making of these plans, no one even told me about them until today. Now I'm in a position where I'm forced to break character even more than I already have, or risk ruining other people's plans. Obviously, I'm not going to prioritize my characterization over people having fun in the game, but I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place as far as how to get out of it without being blatantly ooc (especially since Mello has never interacted with this crew but will probably have to do so again, so bad characterization on my part can have long-term consequences).

I'm sorry. I got the PM about the thread, and I elected that I didn't want to shove Asch in a huge fight my first NS thread, because I don't think I'm ready to?

So I figured it was fine to just be like "k we'll leave then!"

But I'm honestly fine with whatever you decide. Asch will probably just go off without consulting anyone ANYWAY if a fight starts, because he's kind of...like that?

Ack.

Haha, oh no, none of this has anything to do with you. XD I know Asch is tagging along now, since he doesn't know what's going on. And, heh, Mello would like to avoid fighting as well, just not as much as he'd like to avoid blows to his pride. ;)

Wait...which PM was this? Did I have a conversation while half-asleep? God, that would be embarrassing. I don't remember talking about any of this in PM.

OH, no, not a PM from you. Meche-mun PM'd me about it before. :3

Oh woah, I didn't mess up anything with ZEX's negotiating and everything, did I? D: I thought we'd all discussed that and were cool with it before, but if I messed something up for you then I'm really sorry. D:

Oh, haha, no, it's not that! The negotiation's perfectly ic for both of them. I was a little 'buh?' since it was my (and Mello's) understanding that SCers couldn't do things like take hostages, so I kind of wish I'd known about you guys' plot in advance for ooc reasons unrelated to Mello, but that's no big deal and it's not at all what I'm frustrated about. You did mention it, I just didn't think the whole realistic-possibility-of-a-hostage thing through :D

I guess my frustration now just boils down to one silly ooc 'hurry up and post please!' prod that I took way too seriously.

I'm just trying to find a way around the situation that's easiest for everyone without being really ooc for Mello. If I'd known about how important this Donna plot was in advance, I could have tweaked Mello's behavior early on to get them in and out pretty quickly, but yeah...I only found out about it when I was prodded to open up the room for that plot, which left me with no time to figure out how Mello could realistically walk away from insults like that (being talked down to and ordered around are two of his really big triggers).

I'm sorry if you thought I was angry at you! <333 I've just been in a bad mood these last few days Aside from this one clusterfuck moment I'm loving threading with you guys and we should thread again!

Haha I wasn't sure if it would work or not either BUT ZEX IS THE KIND OF PERSON WHO'D TRY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE PERSON DOING M-U ON HIM, SO HE'S WILLING TO TRY ANYTHING ONCE he wants lots of sexy human friends to molest
and it'll probably backfire right in his face the next time he tries it
If I remember right I just threw it out as a possibility when Meche PMed me cause ZEX+combat=fail and then it kind of ended up happening |D but since everyone seemed okay with it I thought it was alright? It kind of happened quickly. :O but I probably should have just PMed everyone with the idea at first, whoop

I didn't know about Donna until... this post lol SO I'M JUST TRYING TO WORK IT ALL OUT BEST FOR EVERYONE |D if Mello wants to stick around with ZEX he's not going to like throw a fit or anything, he's just worried this'll exacerbate the situation so he's going to try his best to keep everyone calm and get Teisel and Asch moving faster as a result. :B

Aww I'm having fun too, it's just ZEX isn't usually in big threads and I get all nervous that I'm screwing it up D:

Yeah, sorry, I noticed your post seemed a little frustrated about that. I just felt that since the SCer's ultimate goal is to get patients back to their rooms, and since I thought I understood from Asch-mun and ZEX-mun that your party didn't want to fight, this would be the best solution. Again, I'd been operating on the assumption that this had been discussed among the four of you and everyone was fine with it, which is totally my fault.

I do think I mentioned Donna to someone, but I hadn't PMed it around yet because I thought it would only affect ZEX-mun (since Donna-mun had agreed to wait to jump in until the others had left).

I'm so sorry. I originally PMed ZEX-mun and Asch-mun because they were the next two in the posting order, and I thought the plan was for them to clear it with the rest of the party--I must've just gotten my wires crossed. Since this also came up in the lounge a couple of days ago, I thought we were on the same page now (aside from the Donna angle, since the idea was for her to come in after most of you had left).

I'm going to take it that my last line was interpreted wrongly. What I meant was that if Mello wouldn't leave due to the threats, the thread could still take place but that it could easily be broken up so that there wouldn't be a thread of doom. I could have worded that better, I know, but I'm not saying that you should break character to avoid things, Allie.

And it was being assumed by people that since Meche was taking a hostage, which had been agreed to by those involved with the thread (somewhat), that they would be doing as they intended by going to the file room and leaving a Meche and Zex thread in the Entry-way.

Hey, everyone, it's Meche-mun. Just wanted to apologize for this whole mess--I know I've screwed up pretty hard here, and in the future I'll make sure everyone is on board with everything I've been discussing with anyone whose actions might affect their characters. >__<

I've got to head to work right now, but I'll be back later in the day and I welcome any suggestions as to how I can help fix this. Again, I'm so sorry for the confusion and the frustration I've caused you all.

All right, let's get a rundown so we know how things played out and we can know what happened and go from there?:

We'll start with this thread: Albedo - Meche - Donna" (http://community.livejournal.com/damned/555254.html?thread=45378806#t45378806), which comes just before Mello's group entered the hallway.

At the end of this thread, Albedo got fed up and left the thread on his own, linking out as he should have but not taking Donna with him because they'd basically had a ~~mother and son~~ fight. It was Meche's turn as the SC-er, so I waited a bit for her to post, but we eventually realized that Elisabeth thought Donna had gone with Albedo and had by that point gone to deal with another group, now ZEX - Teisel - Meche - Mello - Asch (http://community.livejournal.com/damned/555254.html?thread=45537526#t45537526).

This left me in a bind as, ICly Donna would not have left that hall to go after Albedo. He can go get himself turned into a plant somewhere else for all she cares! Anyway, Donna is still in the hallway there as a result of this misunderstanding.

By the time Elisabeth and I had worked things out to where Donna could remain IC and not force the new thread to have to be redone do to it, it appeared as though ZEX was to be taken hostage while those remaining in his thread headed into the file room for a short time. As Meche has still assumed Donna to have gone, that opening leaves an easy target for Donna to take her anger out on, which she would since she can apologize to Meche later for it (roommates), keep her from shooting off her gun for a while, and get herself a lovely pair of pumps for the night.

By an above post, it appears that ZEX-mun and Asch-mun were aware of the group clear out, and that it was assumed by both Elisabeth and myself, but Teisel-mun and Allie were not informed, thus resulting in the confusion here.

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So there's what happened with me and what I think happened in the aftermath. Go off this post to let us know if there's something wrong or if you were under the impression of something else and we'll get this all cleared up eventually, 'kay?

(And for Allie... it wasn't an important plot at all, just a way to fix an earlier issue that ended in a backlash. If you get frustrated again, you do know I'm like always on AIM and can say if there's a problem you don't seem to understand. You silly woman! XD)

Yes, that's my understanding of what's going on.

Although, looking at the threads again, it doesn't look like it would be terrible if I finished the Meche-Donna action in its original thread. Let's think about this: So Albedo's left, Meche can assume in her next post (in Donna's thread) that Donna's about to get out (since she was trying to get Albedo to leave) and turn away. In Donna's next post she can whack Meche, take the shoes and leave. Meche can post once more in that thread losing consciousness, waking up again, and realizing that someone else is in the room. It would make Meche's initial reaction to the new team in their thread slightly off, but I could probably smooth some of that awkwardness over in her KO/recovery post. Then all you're out is a couple days of delayed posting, since that thread will go just as it would have otherwise (and I'm free most of this weekend, so I can post like lightning if we can agree on a time).

It requires me to break the SC rules (technically) by being in two threads at once, but since we all know how the chronology works and we're assuming that thread finishes in game time before the new one starts, it adheres to the spirit of the rule, at least.

That would leave a shoeless Meche in the current thread with the other party, and the five of us can work out how to handle that. Is it IC for Mello to say something like, "No, ZEX, get out of here" in that last post and fight Meche while the other three leave, for example?

This seems to be the best solution. Even if it descends into fighting, I don't think anyone aside from Donna is going to cause serious damage to Meche (worst I can see happening is that he'd try to scalpel her, which she'd dodge and probably shoot him). I don't think anyone else in Mello's group would seriously harm Meche either...they probably all think he's an idiot now.

So, go with that?

Do you want me to just have Asch walk out, then? It's my post but idk really what to do now 8D

From what it seems, they'll be two separate threads, so you can just have Asch do whatever he'd logically do next, whether that be leave altogether, go for the file room, get involved, ~~call Mello a goddamn idiot~~ or wait and see what happens. :)

Okay, I'm going to go post for your thread now, and the other four of you do whatever makes you happiest. :3 Mello, if you want to fight, please let me know what you want or don't want in the way of damage so I know what I should be going for here.

I should mention that Kio- and Ritsuka-muns want their characters to get into a fight with Meche whenever they finish up in the file room, but probably the best idea is to get a couple more posts into the ZEX/Mello et al. thread and see how it shapes up. If we need to talk again in a bit, we can do that.

Again, I'm so sorry to all of you for all the trouble.

Urk, obviously I meant Donna's thread there. Just finished posting in that one.

I'd be cool with this, then things'll just go down the way they originally were going to, right?

Tagged for Asch. I guess Teisel and I will just go get the files? Then we'll pop back in and Mello can come back to the room with Asch? Or Mello can shout after him what files he wants. IDK. D:

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