Fourth wall ahoy!

[vstheworld]

Hey all, Eryn here! Just letting everyone know that I will soon be introducing my newest character to Damned: Scott Pilgrim! 

[tumbleweed blows by]

Okay, I know he's not that well-known in this circle of the internet (he's big in the indie comics scene, I swear!). XD;; Regardless, I have an alert to post regarding him. Scott is a character whose canon is set very specifically on 2005 Earth (for the most part, certain rules about physics aside), and a majority of the media titles there are the same there as they are in the real world. On top of that, Scott is a pretty big geek, so he knows the canons of quite a few of the various fandoms that tend to pop up in panfandom games like this. You know what that means: potential canon puncturing. So here is the note I made about potential fourth wall stuff that I submitted with Scott's character application:

Scott Pilgrim is a character who could very easily break the fourth wall for certain other characters in Damned, most notably our pre-2005 video game-based characters. I am going to be very careful about canon puncturing, and won't ever use Scott's knowledge for nefarious purposes. I will always ask first when potentially canon puncturing.

At the moment, Scott is only canonically familiar with two specific fandoms currently at Landel's: Final Fantasy and X-Men. Here is a list of other fandoms currently in Landel's that he could conceivably be familiar with to varying degrees, but haven't been mentioned specifically in canon. It's definitely okay to ask for him to not have knowledge of any given title on this list for the sake of those who would rather not have any fourth wall breakage:

- Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
- Disney
- Dragonball Z (maybe the basics)
- Fatal Frame
- Grim Fandango
- Guilty Gear
- Gundam, pre-2005 (maybe a bit)
- Indiana Jones
- James Bond
- Kingdom Hearts (1, not 2)
- Marvel and DC comics (mainstream only)
- Mega Man/Rock Man
- Metal Gear/Metal Gear Solid
- Mortal Kombat
- Naruto (maybe the basics)
- Neon Genesis Evangelion (maybe a bit)
- Resident Evil
- Sailor Moon (maybe the basics)
- Sam & Max
- Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga (maaaaybe)
- Silent Hill
- Star Control (maybe only a bit, since it's a PC series mainly and Scott prefers console)
- Star Ocean: The Second Story Not totally stricken, but will be careful with this one.
- Star Trek
- Star Wars
- Transformers
- Tales of Destiny
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
- The Wizard of Oz
- Xena: Warrior Princess (maybe a bit)
- X/1999 (maybe a bit; Scott has had dream imagery very reminiscent of this series)

If your character is from Final Fantasy or X-Men, please comment to this post and let me know what you want in terms of puncturing. Let me know whether you prefer a little, a lot, or Scott conveniently avoiding your character until he gets it in his head that he probably shouldn't go around telling people that they're fictional.

If your character is from any of the titles mentioned on the list, please comment to this post and let me know if you want puncturing or not. If you don't mind puncturing, tell me how much you're okay with. If you do mind, then I will cross your series title off this list and mark it down as something that Scott conveniently hasn't gotten around to yet. If I get conflicting answers from different characters within the same series, we can work something more specific out.

If your character's series is not on the list (and it might not be if you're new, as I don't know how many new series came up this past round of apps), but you think it ought to be, post it here and we'll talk.



EDIT: On a side note, I have a special interaction request over on the plot post that requires a fair number of people for very short threads. Reply there if you're interested!

Comments

[scarletspeedstr.livejournal.com]

Hokay, this only affects two of mine, I think. Brainy's not exactly from a widely known canon, unless Scott is the type to REALLY like his comics. XD

With Raph, I'm totally okay with canon puncturing; since TMNT is so widely known, it was also something I addressed specifically in his app and would be interested in playing around with. :) But, there might be different versions that Scott knows? Like, comics vs movies vs original cartoon vs 2003 - ongoing cartoon... I think that's all of them...

Wally is a different matter. Uh, it'll depend on how much Scott likes his comics as to if he knows about him beyond 'The Flash is a superhero'. BUT. The Justice League SERIES (which Wally is from) did run from 2001 - 2004, so it's also possible that he knows that version? IDK, WHICH WOULD YOU THINK? I'm mostly okay with canon puncturing Wally, but with him I'd like a bit of a head's up first?

[vstheworld]

Don't worry, he's not a huge comics nerd. Games are his forte. He'll probably know the basics about the biggest Marvel and DC titles (we know he knows X-Men specifically because of the Xavier's School for the Gifted patches on his coat), but not much beyond that.

For Raph, Scott probably grew up on the older cartoon and the infamous arcade game. If he saw any of the newer one, it probably wasn't much. Either way, I'm glad to have a character who knows who he is. >:D

Same deal for the Justice League cartoon as for the 2003 TMNT - if Scott saw it, he didn't see much of it. He probably knows a bit beyond "The Flash is a superhero", but not extensive stuff. If you'd like, I can keep it to a very basic level with him, and we can discuss specifics if it comes up. :)

[scarletspeedstr.livejournal.com]

Aha, 'kay. XD Well, if he only saw a bit of the series it's probably only 'Flash is a superhero, has speed, makes jokes and flirts a lot'. Since. Most of his past wasn't delved into (there were hints if you already knew what to look for, but they'd be missed on a casual watch) and other interesting bits are either likely to be missed if you're not following the series (overreaching plot threads) or came from the Unlimited episodes that would have aired post-2005.

[vstheworld]

There's a chance he might have seen some of the '90s live-action TV series which featured Barry Allen Flash, too. I don't know for sure, though; do you want him to? XD Speaking of different Flashes in general, how much do you think a casual DC fan would know about that?

[scarletspeedstr.livejournal.com]

Ah, up to you? I have noooo idea what that series was like. Barry wasn't really my favourite Flash. <<; Hmm. Well, it really depends what types of comics he would have been reading? Even though they're all supposed to be taking place in the same world, there's very little interactions across major titles, so like, while Batman and Flash know each other and work together in the League, in their own titles it's very rare to see the other hero. If he was reading team-centred titles like the Justice League series, it'll be different again.