http://thebloodyacacia.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] thebloodyacacia.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] damned_lounge2006-10-07 07:56 pm

HELLO I AM HAVING OF QUESTIONS

Mmm I am so excited for this game to start. Srsly, like. Super-excited. to the X-TREME. because look IT'S PYRAMID HEAD.

Anyway. I do have a point to this post. As Pyramid Head will be wandering around Landel's, randomly attacking people and ... doing suspicious things to dead monsters, I need to know about your characters. Specifically, I need to know about their Guilt.

Iffin you all would be so kind, plz to be listing your character's crimes (what they ARE guilty of) and their mental crimes (what they FEEL they are guilty of). Let's use SH2 as an example: James killed his wife. He is guilty of that crime. However, he forgot he did it. Therefore, he was guilty of the action, but didn't realize it. On the other hand, let's use Dias for the mental example: his family was killed, and while he didn't do it, he feels guilty that he couldn't do anything to stop it.

In a poetic sense, it's guilt of the body and guilt of the mind.

So! If you could, please tell me those things about your characters. This'll make it easier for me to have Pyramid Head attack people when he runs into groups, because he'll automatically focus on whoever is the most guilty. OR WILL HE? His mental processes are a SEKKRIT. >O

I could research all of these myself, but, uh. I'm lazy. Also, Wikipedia doesn't have every entry. (Ever tried looking up Caim? You get demonology.)

If you don't want other players to know these things, just put your comment on Private, or whatever mode that is, so that only I/the mods can read it. Otherwise, FIRE AWAY!

(btw, Pyramid Head WILL get to everybody eventually. I SHALL SEE TO IT. >( )

[identity profile] burningvigor.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Ohhh, this is fun.

Roy Mustang. Oh boy. Okay, he's wracked with guilt. He participated in the Ishbal War and killed tons of innocents and to this day he suffers for it. He thinks it's partly his fault that his best friend got killed, too.

Sora. Not as bad, but he does feel some guilt for having to kill the Organization members. He knows he had to, but still.

Zack. He doesn't have much guilt, except for not succeeding with getting to Midgar alive.

There you go!

[identity profile] burningvigor.livejournal.com 2007-02-04 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
Malcolm Reynolds. In the past, he fought in the battle of Serenity Valley during the Unification War. He ended up leading about 3,000 men and most of them ended up dying. The battle was lost, which led to ... well, unification. He's got to have some guilt for that battle being lost, even if he can't really be blamed for that sort of thing.

Two members of his crew, Shepherd Book and Wash, also died... While Book wasn't actually part of his crew when it happened, Mal seemed pretty bothered by it. And he has to feel guilty about Wash, too, also because it's Zoe's husband.

He's not guilty, however, for all the thievery he does. XD;

[identity profile] 0ver-the-moon.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm, that's a tough question, haha *ponders it*

Haru's technically got a lot of doubts but I'm not sure they'd count as guilt. He thinks he's stupid and slow and broods over that alot, but the only way I can think that he'd feel guilty over various things is not being able to do enough. Akito manipulated his family and twisted things and hurt people very close to him and he wasn't able to stop it, or stop enough, or keep them from being hurt. Namely Rin and Yuki and the little ones.

In Landels itself, he's a bit guilty he's not more useful when it comes to actual survival and that so many of them are still here.

The only other thing I can think of is his temper that switches him to Black Haru that he has no control over, and is rather... well, out of control. :P

Hope that gives you something at least, haha.
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[identity profile] reunion.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
.. Uh. Shit.

Actual crimes: Kidnapping, torture, murder (attempted and otherwise), brainwashing... setting a giant dragon like thing on a city full of people... trying to wipe out, well, everyone... I imagine he also stole his bike and cellphone... and he lied A LOT. And.. yes. AHAHA oh god he's so screwed.

Mental crimes: ... Guilty about not realizing Rufus had Jenova sooner... does that count? Guilty that he believed Aerith's voice was his mother's because he found out it wasn't... and also that he didn't succeed in KILLING EVERYONE. Especially Cloud. And guilty about resenting Sephiroth like whoa because he's THE FAVORITE. Uh. Yes. Basically, that can all be summed up by saying he's guilty about failing Jenova in general.

... I think that's it...?

[identity profile] scaredy-crow.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Awesome idea. Here are mine (with a couple helpful links on Junior's because that one does have a lot of information that might need to be looked up):

Scarecrow: Crane has guilt of the body, as you put it, though he has no remorse for it. The good doctor is responsible for turning most, if not all, of the patients in his own asylum into lab rats for his fear experiments, and through that the minds of all who were subjected to it were destroyed and the patients themselves were turned into either gibbering idiots or grown men who were petrified of their own shadow. He has also killed a few people, occasionally even in cold blood.

Junior/Rubedo: Junior has more mental guilt, though it might also border on guilt of the body. When he and his comrades, the rest of the U.R.T.V. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_%28Xenosaga%29#U.R.T.V.) force were supposed to be completing a mission, he broke off the link between them out of fear and as a consequence all but he and Gaignun (Nigredo) were infected by U-DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_%28Xenosaga%29#U-DO). Junior feels guilty for doing what he did and causing the deaths of most of the rest of his comrades. Also, he feels guilty because he had to kill his twin, Albedo, when Albedo tried again to make contact with U-DO.

[identity profile] red-dragon-mode.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
._.' And I realized that I forgot this when I was initially typing this, but I have an addition to Junior's mental guilt:

Being unable to save Sakura from death.

[identity profile] k4t4str0ph4l.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Schuldig:

ACTUAL CRIMES - my god is there a list. Kidnapping, extortion, murder, excessive cruelty, causing mental torment just for the hell of it, sadism, brainwashing, leading and/or forcing others down the road to crime, minor theft, major theft, and he's pretty free and loose about who he sleeps with too.

MENTAL CRIMES - Schuldig actually feels almost no guilt whatsoever. He takes pleasure and amusement in what he does.

Dias:

ACTUAL CRIMES - Technically, being so blunt as to almost be intentionally insulting isn't a crime, although it's left plenty of people unhappy with him. Still, Dias has killed people for money, even if he uses discretion as to who's paying him and who's on the wrong end of his blade. He also tried and failed to commit suicide a long time ago.

MENTAL CRIMES - Dias has a heavy load in this area, not so much with a long list so much as feeling tons of guilt over just one or two things. He feels some guilt over his suicide attempt - more shame than guilt, really - but he has acres and acres of guilt over the massacre of his family. He feels he should have been strong enough to protect them, and that it was his (and their) weakness that allowed them to be taken advantage of.

[identity profile] burst-knuckle.livejournal.com 2007-02-01 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I JUST REMEMBERED I OWE YOU A ZELL POST so here it is. :D (ALSO I BITE LJ FOR EATING THIS POST ONCE ALREADY.)

Zell Dincht:

ACTUAL CRIMES - Zell doesn't really have many of these. He is a mercenary, which means his skills are for sale to the highest bidder regardless of the morality of the job or the client, but as of yet he hasn't done anything too bad - although he did participate in a failed assassination mission - and he's a pretty consciencious(I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SPELLED RIGHT AND I'M TOO TIRED TO CHECK) guy.

MENTAL CRIMES - A bit of a longer list here. Having found out who Edea really is and that her actions as Sorceress weren't really her fault, Zell definitely feels some guilt for even trying to kill her, and for forgetting her in the first place. But by far the biggest piece of guilt in his head is from his accidentally revealing to the president of Galbadia (who Seifer was holding hostage at the moment) that Seifer, along with himself and Squall and the others, were from Garden, prompting retaliatory missile strikes on the Balamb and Trabia Gardens. Balamb escaped relatively unscathed by taking to the air(although thanks to a lack of understanding in the controls, they crashed headlong into the town of Fisherman's Horizon, which Zell feels some guilt for, although most of that was only property damage), but Trabia was hit hard and a number of students were killed. Zell tries not to show it - particularly around Selphie, who as a former student of Trabia Garden is already depressed enough about what happened, and Squall, who has been less than sympathetic regarding the matter - but he's absolutely miserable about it. He doesn't really know how to deal with it and as such has been trying to avoid thinking about it at all, which probably isn't healthy. (Since this was entirely accidental on Zell's part, and the missiles were an indirect result of his verbal misstep, I'm not counting this under Actual Crimes.)

[identity profile] zalia.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Oh boy... Ed Elric's guilt ^^; Should be fun.

Actual Crimes: Attempting to ressurect the dead, causing his brother to lose his body and himself to lose his arm and leg. Creating the homunculus Sloth. Becoming a dog of the military. Killing Greed.

Mental Crimes: Attempting to ressurect the dead, causing his brother to lose his body. Not saving his mother. Not having restored his brother. His brother losing his body. Killing Greed. Not being able to save Nina (little girl Ed and Al bonded with) from being turned into a Chimera. Not being able to save Nina from being killed. Nearly murdering many people in the 5th lab to create the Philosopher's stone to restore Al. Not murdering many people in the 5th lab to create the Philosopher's stone to restore Al. His brother losing his body. Hughes dying. His brother becoming the Philosopher's stone. Joining the military. Al getting kidnapped by Envy. His brother losing his body. Being killed before he could restore Al.

Ummm, Al losing his body and not yet being restored plays a major role in his guilt ^^;

[identity profile] nijiironohako.livejournal.com 2007-02-14 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't forget all that stuff about the trouble he sort of kinda started with that priest guy and Rose....

What? I thought you ordered salt with that wound!

[identity profile] angels-inflight.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Naminé:

actual crimes - existing, according to DiZ LOL also she did have a hand in ruining Sora and Roxas's memories.

mental crimes - messing with Sora and Roxas's memories, and replacing Kairi in Sora's mind. She still carries this burden. Technically she shouldn't be able to feel guilty but she tries, man, she tries.

Vexen:

actual crimes - unethical research as both as Nobody and a human and existing as well. WHOO. Repliku is pretty much his biggest sin aside.

mental crimes - Vexen doesn't feel guilt. Hell, I don't think he was capable of feeling guilt when he was a human because he looks at everything so objectively.

[identity profile] walking-complex.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
*shifty glance* This could be a long post. Also I don't use Dirge of Cerberus canon so if some of this seems off, that's why.

Actual Crimes: Mostly human experimentation, torture, abuse, that sort of thing. Killin' shit for science. He's been plopped into Landel's earlier in his life so specifically all he's done is kill/revive/mutilate Vincent Valentine and experiment on his pregnant wife(resulting in her death), but if you feel like going through his future(which is almost every other FFVII character's past) there's a whole host of people he's fucked up(specimens: Cloud Strife, Zack, Red XIII, Aeris, Aeris's mother, a bunch of civilians; the only person he outright murdered was Professor Gast, I think. His wife Lucrecia died in childbirth due to the experiments that had been done on her, though they were done with her permission). Morally bankrupt and emotionally stunted.

Mental Crimes: He doesn't feel at all guilty about the various lives he's ruined. The only person he might feel bad about in the slightest is Lucrecia, since he didn't really mean for her to die. They WERE married and he DID care about her in his own bizarre way. At this point, he probably thinks that he could have prevented it if he'd had enough data/been a better scientist/something like that. Eventually he'll realize that she was pretty much doomed as soon as she signed the waiver, but whether this is true or something he made up to justify the failing is up for debate.

He won't feel guilty about killing Gast, but I think he'll feel sort of slimy about it. Not because of the act itself, but because he has a rather glaring inferiority complex in regards to the other scientist and even after he's dead Hojo can't really ever measure up to him. Since he's not dead in Landels!Hojo's timeline, though, he's just got this undercurrent of bitterness, hate, jealousy, and possibly murderous intent. He just hasn't carried that intent out yet.

...I'm sorry if it's confusing D: Yell at me if it is and I can clarify?

[identity profile] 31st-of-china.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Genjyo Sanzo

Mental guilts/doubts:

Not being able to stop the murder of his master, Koumyou Sanzo, nor the theft of Seiten sutra. It's doubtful he could have stopped it period, but that event still haunts him.

Most recently: having not been able to recover the Maten sutra (both sutras having been passed down as his responsibility) since his sudden arrival at Landels.

He's also starting to worry over Goku's absence.

Actual crimes:
Taking far too many lives to count. For the most part, he's blocked out any guilt from most of those kills. It's the world vs. him in Sanzo's eyes.


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Cletus Kasady/Carnage ([livejournal.com profile] perfect_meld)

Actual crimes:

Murder sprees all over the place, a dash of indescriminate violence, throw in a little lechery and arrogance. Going on the occassional brain or chocolate eating binge to get his fix.

Guilt:

None, unless being the most highly evolved symhiote/human bond who is amazingly awesome and superior to Venom is a crime. ;D

[identity profile] grosse-sklaven.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Ah hah, a good idea! And I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how your Pyramid Head works out, as well.

Adelheid: Has no 'real' crimes to speak of. He's killed exactly one thing in self-defense (before Landels) and otherwise is an incredibly honorable and nice guy.

His meta-angst comes from his name and his bloodline. He feels guilty that he's prospered from the Bernstein fortune, which is blood-money in a very real sense of the term. Combine that with the fact that he believes that he is guilty by extension of all of the murders/tortures/pain/etc. that his father inflicted, and there's half. The other half is that he's cursed with the blood of a god of death and fertility who wants to destroy the world and rebuild it from the ground up. As his life fuels said deity, Adelheid feels guilty that he's included in whatever grand (and evil) schemes that said deity might be concocting.

Scholar Ling: She feels guilt about nothing. Everything she's done has been for the sake of her philosophy, and as her philosophy believes in strength as the ultimate virtue, she's done some incredibly evil things. Again, though, she feels no guilt over it; it's just the reward of being the strongest.

As for what she's done? Topping the list is impaling a deity of water, and cutting open its heart so that its life-water (not blood, for obvious reasons) could flow for years and increase the power of her empire. She single-handedly upset the natural balance of her world, and by imprisoning said deity has completely destroyed the cycle of life and death in her own world. She's doomed villages to a slow and lingering fate of starvation, used her wits and smooth tongue to break apart lovers and have them kill each other, slaughtered more than a few people by her own hand... Soul-bound her former companions so that they would obey her eternally... Took over an empire and ushered in a new age of fear and iron-fisted dominance... The list goes on and on, but I think that just about does it.

I'm sure that she's kicked a few puppies too. Ah hah hah... sorry.

[identity profile] laconicgaia.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Let's do the easy one first.

Lexaeus:

Actual Crime(s): Trying to blow up Riku. Existing, supposedly. And, while human, actually listening to Xehanort rant about darkness and thinking it was a good idea to experiment on people with said element.

Mental Crime(s): None. He can't feel guilt as he's a Nobody which can't feel emotions, and he had too much of a scientific view to feel guilty about a few experiments.

He doesn't doubt himself about anything.

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Dante (Sparda, that is):

Actual Crime(s): Um. Killing a few demons? Being a general asshole, but he hasn't actually hurt anyone. Except his brother. But he wasn't trying to really kill him, except he commit himself to doing it if it was necessary.

Mental Crime(s): Definitely failing to save his brother, Vergil, from literally falling into Hell. Not being able to protect his mother during a demon ambush. Also, losing his mother's amulet since coming to Landel's.

Dante also doesn't really doubt himself, except where protecting his own family (and perhaps other people) are concerned. He's pretty arrogant, otherwise.

[identity profile] strengthtolive.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
Cloud:

actual crimes - Trying to kill Sephiroth (twice); the first attack was more in the heat of the moment when he saw that his hometown was on fire and that everyone he cared about was either dead or in critical condition. The second, he was "a little" more clear headed and more so, told to go finish the job. Er, so to speak. He failed in both attempts, though. That is, Sephiroth "ended" himself by jumping off the platform into the Lifestream.

mental crimes - Never making into SOLIDER, being unable to save his mother and other people of his hometown, not arriving sooner to help Tifa, and being weak (mentally, because he wasn't able to handle the experimentations as well as Zack and thus, burdened Zack's and his escape being lost in his own world, and not having the courage to tell Tifa that he didn't do as he promised; and physically, again, never making it into SOLIDER).

Cloud isn't quite of the right mind to think about these things normally. He more shifts between being "in the past" and "the present." But, he does constantly doubt himself; he's not a confident person and the only time he had ever felt so would be when he took on Zack's persona. But, because I took him before that time, he's still a pretty weak-willed individual.

[identity profile] voiceless-rage.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Ohohoho look at me be a dork and post on my own ... post. Yes. HEY IT'S REFERENCE.

Physical guilt: Slaughter of hundreds/thousands of people. Physical abuse. Wannabe verbal abuse. Extreme violence. Extreme prejudice. Kicking old men.

Mental guilt: Couldn't save Furiae. Couldn't save Inuart. Hated Inuart. Couldn't save Angelus. Didn't kill Manah. Watched his parents die. Didn't completely eradicate the Empire. Is extreeeemely prejudiced against, oh, everything. Let Manah get away. Thinks everybody else SUCKS.

[identity profile] revansremnant.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
Revan... um, well, she sorta spearheaded a war against the Republic shortly after she saved it. Wholesale genocide (depopulated a few planets anybody?), corruption of Jedi into Sith (or just killing them if they refused to turn), basically just being very, very dark and evil.

And she did it all in order to prepare the Republic for the real enemy, the True Sith. Or so she claims.

Does she remember any of this.... no. All her life has been supressed by the Jedi COuncil after her capture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darth_Revan - the Wiki article on Revan is pretty good.

[identity profile] repolarization.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Ginji believes that he is responsible for a lot of things. I don't know how much you know about Getbackers so I'll sum up! He grew up in a very crappy place and people died all the time there, so he feels like it's his fault for not doing enough to save them. He's also guilty of, well, taking over that place and trying to mold it into his idea of what is right and killing everyone in his way... although the actual killing was done by his alter-personality he still blames himself for it.

<3 I hope you get what I'm saying?

[identity profile] theangstmonkey.livejournal.com 2006-11-18 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Might as well add Zoe too now...

Zoe has no guilt. Everything she's done she's done for the war and for Mal which means she was just doing her job. She isn't bothered by any of it, except maybe that there are some people she wished she could save which she didn't. She has killed a lot of people though, and she's now a smuggler and a thief because peace doesn't suit her well. Sometimes that bothers her too, but she'll do whatever Mal tells her without feeling remorse over it. That's why she's a good first mate. XD

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Whoot!

[personal profile] a_sin_for_him 2006-10-08 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, man:

Lust:

Mental: Once upon a time, Lust knew this alchemist named Lujon. He fell in love with her and she used his love to manipulate him. But he really and truly honestly loved her, not because of what she could give him or the power she offered, but because of who she was. He left his fiance at the alter for her, and begged her to stay with him. Lust, in a fit of fear and confusion, killed him. She feels insanely guilty about that now, and wishes that she hadn't. She doesn't have too many other regrets, but killing Lujon is her biggest. So I guess that counts as both physical and mental. There's also deeply buried guilt that she isn't the woman that she was transmuted to be.

Actual Crimes: She's killed a lot of people, mostly by stabbing them and feeding them to her sin-companion Gluttony. She's manipulated men to their deaths, started a revolt in an Ishbalan internment camp to try and coax another slaughter, and aided in the destruction of an entire town.


Hughes:

Mental: Hughes is guilty that he died and left his wife and daughter behind. He's also vaguely guilty about his current relationship with Roy Mustang, since he is doing it in secret due to circumstance. And there is deeply buried guilt over not being able to get criminals off the street before they could kill again. Especially the ones who preyed on children.

Physical Crimes: Hughes doesn't have a lot of physical crimes. His job back home involved tracking and capturing violent serial killers, and he did have to bring some of them down to bring them in.

Tamaki

Mental: Tamaki was forced to leave his mother when he was 14, and after he left she disappeared. He had to leave her, and promise to never contact her again, in order to receive money that would pay for her medication and keep her alive. But he still feels like he let her down somehow.

Physical Crimes: Tamaki's punched a couple of people who've harassed his friends, but that's about it.

[identity profile] dead-draven.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooooh. XD Good question.

Eric feels partially responsible for the death of his fiancee Shelly. She was killed right in front of him and he couldn't do anything to stop it while she screamed for him to help her, and that's part of what's made him more than a little crazy.

He's guilty of killing quite a few people, lackeys for two of the four people that killed him and Shelly and two of the four men themselves. But he thinks they deserved it, so I suppose by your definition he's only physically guilty, he had no mental guilt for his actions.

I hope that answers your questiom! :D

[identity profile] gotahunch.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
YAY, EQUAL OPPORTUNITY STABITTY. 8D

Actual Crimes: Murder (Both monsters and people. Dunno if the monsters even count. XD), terrorism (Sort of? He's against both the current government and the Vendeeni (evil power-seeking shark-people)), deception (both unwittingly and otherwise. He does lie a lot and with ease. D:) and kidnapping (HI FAYT) and cooking (IT'S A CRIME WHEN HE TRIES).

Mental Crimes: Giving up a while back when one of his hunches didn't pan out (and could have resulted in the death of Mirage, Maria and himself). Even though he's resigned himself to doing whatever it takes, he still feels varying degrees of remorse about the murder and deception (depends on the person). Sympathy more-than-bordering on guilt for not being able to protect some of the innocent people (especially the children) who are dieing in the war.

I hope that gives you something? Fayt whores all the emo. D:

[identity profile] kukai.livejournal.com 2006-10-08 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Actual Crimes: Murdered his father and several of his standard-unit siblings.

Mental Crimes: Mentally guilty of both of the above crimes. Could not save Albedo from U-DO. Could not save his standard unit siblings from U-DO. Could not make amends with Albedo before his death. Could not ease Rubedo's pain after the Miltian Conflict. His mental guilt doesn't surface all that often, but it's always there somewhere, so it counts.

... yeah, Gaignun isn't really all that guilty. :D;

[identity profile] foxyroses.livejournal.com 2006-10-09 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Well.. I suppose I should post to this too, since Kurama will be joining this lovely hell party soon enough. X3;

Guilt of the Body:
In his current life, he helped two other demons steal three artifacts from the Spirit Realm, and he helped Yusuke kill plenty of demons, as well as a few humans, a child too. He also locked someone in a tree, to be tormented for the rest of eternity. (Course that could be seen as a good thing, considering the person...XD) In his past life as a demon, he stole things right and left and killed people, even women and children, without batting an eye. He also possessed the body of a woman's unborn child to use as his own, which is how he's human now. XD

Guilt of the Mind:
Oh boy. He has...not a lot of things to be guilty of, but the things he does have really plague him. He feels guilty for a lot of the things he did in his past life as a demon, such as killing people and also leaving behind his partner, Kuronue, when he was caught by their pursuers and ultimately killed. He feels like he betrayed his partner by running away, even though Kuronue told him to run. He feels guilty for everything he put his mother through while raising him, too. She was always kind to him, like a mother would be, but he kinda used her and didn't think much of her until she risked her own health to save his life when he was little. Then she got sick, and he felt as if he'd caused her sickness by being such a horrible child and always thinking he was superior, etc. He also feels guilty about killing humans out of necessity, like Amanuma. Kinda a paradox, but he feels ashamed for not being able to do it so easily like he could as a demon, but also guilty for being able to kill a human child at all, even if it was out of necessity, in order to save the world and all.

I think that's all...

:D Whee for guilt!

[identity profile] explosives-r-us.livejournal.com 2006-10-09 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Hooray for guilt--that is, if I can possibly thing of anything that Karasu might be guilty of at all. To me, he honestly seems like one of those characters that just doesn't guilt-trip and angst over it while randomly thinking about it or being reminded of it.

Karasu could be guilty of a lot of things as far as 'guilt of the body' goes. From a rather obvious prospective, he -is- a demon and he -kills- those that he loves; those of whom he finds appealing to his undoubtedly lustful eye. He's a murderer--whether he believes it or not. Ending a loved one's life due cause of the fear and pain of losing them at a later time when they grow old is not a good enough reason--and his insanity is what holds him to think otherwise. ((XD Just from what I've come up with over the many years that I have slaved role playing this stalker freak))

In all reality, I believe that Karasu suffers from an IMMENSE amount of mental guilt. His insanity and calm composure behind the mask masks it and I also think that his way of thinking could also be partially Toguro Ani's and Ototo's fault. (( So that you know who they are--they are the 'tards that beat the hell out of Bui and Karasu during a battle and forced them to... well--basically work for them until they were strong enough to beat them. A lot of their beliefs and influence also lay with Karasu))

Since there isn't much on him from the anime-past wise or anything, it has somewhat led me to believe that whatever guilt that he may hold is perhaps those that he HAS murdered in his selfish and misled attempt to 'preserve' whatever love that he possesses by killing those of whom he holds dear with his own hands.

It was the same with Kurama during their fight in the dark tournament. He found Kurama appealing--very much so appealing. He -told- him right out that he liked him--perhaps loved him even. And what he said during their fight pretty much spelled out his twisted reasoning for everything.

Though he doesn't act like any of that bothers him--that he -is- twisted and demented in his sick thoughts of murdering his loved ones--I believe that somewhere inside his insane head, he truly IS guilty for what he does, but he is so far into what he does, due cause of his beliefs there isn't anything that will stop him from continuing.

He is brainwash, misled, and maybe even a little bit confused by his own numerous actions of which he has been led to believe is completely alright.

:D To put in a brief statement: The guy's nuts and he has no idea what he's doing and why he does what he does. It is both selfish and horrible all around and he can never and more than likely will never be able to realize that fully because of his pain and guilt of an event that perhaps happened in his past.

There are a lot of views on him--mine is just my own mixed with some that I have -heard-.

The end.

[identity profile] soul-defender.livejournal.com 2006-10-09 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
For Ichigo? That's an easy one.

At the tender young age of nine, Ichigo's mother was brutally murdered before his very eyes as the two, alone, were on a calm, peaceful walk through a park just a small walk away from their home. To this point in his life, Ichigo had sworn to protect his family, an innocent promise made as a child, so to see the very center of his universe, the person who had cared for him, whose mere smile acted as the sunshine to brush away his tears, was absolutely devastating. He wasn't even aware how she died; Masaki Kurosaki had been murdered by a terrible, soul-devouring demon (a Hollow), one that could not be seen by normal, human eyes.

To make matters worse, years later, Ichigo learned the truth behind the loss of his mother when confronted by the offending Hollow, but he was unable to avenge her when his opponent managed to escape defeat.

To Ichigo, one who prides himself on being a protector, his guilt is in his inability to save his mother. Preying on his insecurities would be simple; one would only have to accuse him of being too weak to make a difference.

[identity profile] beforehertime.livejournal.com 2006-10-09 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
OOH! I want to join.

Elena
Actual Guilt: Um...none, really. Not at this point in her life, anyway. In a couple years she'll be guilty of murder...torture...extortion...the whole nine yards...but she isn't a Turk YET.
Mental Guilt: Elena is fiercely competative, and hates her older sister for all the attention she recieves. When Rosalind ("Gun F" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:FF7_Before_Crisis_Character_A.jpg) in Before Crisis) was hired as a Turk, Elena pinned her hatred on the Turks and Shin-Ra Company in general...not knowing that she's going to be recruited by the same unit after her sister's death. But...deep down, she does actually love her sister, and feels guilty for resenting her.

Kaylee
Actual Guilt: As a crewmember on Serenity, Kaylee has participated in theft, extortion, the occasional death (though she's never killed anyone herself), smuggling of illegal goods, smuggling of illegal persons (Simon and River are fugitives on the run from the Alliance), wearing frilly dresses.
Mental Guilt: ...hmm, hard to say. I think she feels a little guilty for resenting Simon's devotion to River...and for not doing more to stop Tracy's death in "The Message."

[identity profile] blacksustenance.livejournal.com 2006-10-09 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Eddie Brock/Venom:

ACTUAL CRIMES - Numerous kills (almost all for feeding), birthing Carnage to host Cletus Kasady, rampant destruction of property, repeatedly going out of his way to torture Peter Parker in various ways (Spider-man). The symbiote's list of crimes are far larger, but as it is a different species, half of them aren't crimes beyond Earth.

MENTAL CRIMES - Brock used to be disturbed by what they had to do to feed; currently he feels uneasy about his bizarre attraction from earlier toward River Tam (what the symbiote feels translates down to the host). The symbiote feels no guilt for anything, only pure pragmatism, and a certain dislike toward almost all youngling symbiotes.

Darman:

ACTUAL CRIMES - None, in Republic standards

MENTAL CRIMES - Darman's recently been told of Order 66 - he feels doubt about himself and is afraid that perhaps he might have killed his Jedi friends.

Qui-Gon Jinn:

ACTUAL CRIMES - Dabbling in gambling (to free Anakin Skywalker), cheating at gambling (hey, Watto was cheating too!), and blatantly abusing Force Persuade. Could be said to be guilty of enabling Anakin to become a Jedi Knight by making Obi-Wan promise to teach him.

MENTAL CRIMES - He feels guilty that his last words to Obi-Wan, his apprentice, before he died were ones of duty, and not what Obi-Wan really need to hear.

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