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screwthegods ([personal profile] screwthegods) wrote in [community profile] damned_lounge2008-01-15 08:45 pm

When Life Tops You Hard

Um yeah. Being more active = less computer time + less sleeping time!

...Go me.

So that life thing has hit, and it means I'm generally slower in posting. A lot slower. I am so sorry to all those I'm threading with! I'll try to make up for it since I'm off the next two nights, and currently have no plans though it could change. But tonight I believe is one of the nights where I have to work, meaning I probably won't be posting tonight either.

I'm very very sorry Kaze/Emi/Mika/Callie/Rose/SubZero-mun.

UM. HAVE A MEME!

What has fandom done to your canon or characters that makes you hurt inside? Even better, what has CANON done?

Please link images instead of posting them here, since we don't want to break anything, yes? And mark NSFW things or especially spoilery things as such, for the sake of us all.

*ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE POSSIBLE SPOILERZ, HURR*

[identity profile] sugarsweetblood.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh... geeze, both canon and fandom have made me hurt for D.Gray-Man.

Fandom: Characterizations for.... well just about any main character. (NOT U MIKA, ILU!!!) But yeah, I've seen so many characters from there portrayed in ways that aren't even close to how they're supposed to be in the canon. Not just in RP either, but in fanfictions. There is a lot missing for many characters back stories, but when something is shown, people like kicking to the curve as not "proven" so that they can build off their own beliefs until the Canon proves it wrong. And on that note...

Canon: I've never seen any other canon 1. rip off so many other canons without even trying to cover the obviousness of it, or 2. completely 180 on the main character's personality so quickly. I used to really like the main character, but he's like a completely different character in the Manga now. I'll leave it at that before I start foaming at the mouth *huffs*.

Uhm, I can do Tsubasa canon now, yes? Good. Only going to rant at the canon since you reeeeeeeeeeally can't get upset over what's done in a CLAMP canon. Lots of times the fandom ends up more canon than the canon will admit to!

Canon: WAY too confusing right now. And I swear, if any more clones decide to show up (don't you dare touch Kurogane, you evil evil women!!) I'm going to attack CLAMP with a crow bar! I mean it!! I WILL!! *RAWR!!!!*

[identity profile] jade-pen.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
While school and such are keeping me too busy to go deeply in-depth with all of my characters, I do have one big complaint to make.

For Adelheid Bernstein, this is what fandom has done to him to make me hurt inside.








Yep. Absolutely nothing. One of the better people SNK has made, and because he's not a Kyo Kusanagi or a Mai Shiranui, he might as well not exist. Darn it, people! He has potential! Work with me here!

[identity profile] athena8.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Canon for Kikyo: They killed him off. He barely had a chance to develop! ;___; But the good news is, he gets to come back in later drama CDs to haunt Aya in his dreams.

Canon for Malik: I'm kind of not-so-enthused by the watered down version of his character post-Battle City. I liked that high maintenance, bratty side about him. X)

[identity profile] kaerutokoro.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
What has fandom done to Higurashi no ku Koro ni that makes me hurt inside? Two words: Tomitake Princess (http://i9.tinypic.com/82apw61.jpg).

[identity profile] held.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
god i love tomitake princess.

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[identity profile] accursed-rock.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
I can't really complain about Zel (I'm even rather okay with ZelxLina, even though it's NOT canon at all) but I know Jack Horner had awesomely screwy canon things happened since he was apped.

Extreme BAWING some NSFW and maybe a spoiler or two?

[identity profile] bondofflame.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
You know what, I could probably write a thesis about this. LOL. :|

But let's see, let's see... most of this has both Fandom AND Canon doing the good ol' ONE-TWO PUNCH. FUCK YOU BOTH. NOMURA WAS PROBABLY DRUNK WHEN HE WAS MAKING THE PLANS FOR KH2.

Axel's just a trainwreck of horrible horrible things and it mostly started when KH2 came out. DX I loved him in Chain of Memories because he was cunning and two-faced who acts dorkishly cool whenever he's feeling the heat. He felt really omniscient to me since the player got to see how he was controlling a lot of the factors that was going on in Castle Oblivion. /shameless fangirling

And then came KH2. He lost almost EVERYTHING that I liked about him. Sure he was still a dork, but he became overly predictable, disappointingly weak and pathetically obsessed. I stand my ground in saying that Roxas was the root of all problems, and reduced him from something incredible into a wibbling fan-servicy woman. Of course his popularity increased DRAMATICALLY (and when I say this I mean it. I only knew about 4 or 5 other Axel RPers beforehand) so whenever someone pays more attention to quantity, the quality definitely shrinks. Oh sure the fanart is a nice upgrade, but everything else... eh.

If there's one thing I detested in the canon it was Axel's constant use of 'GOT IT MEMORIZED?!?!'which lead everyone else to believe that it's completely IC of him to repeat it once every 3 seconds. Always. Always. I swear, every other Axel journal I see has 'got it memorized' stamped on the username. HAHA Yeah Yeah I know I'm at fault at the 'bond of flame' bit. I know I'm not perfect. T_T

A lot of people here know that I do like Axel/Roxas a lot (Roxas/Axel mainly) but it tends to lose its charm whenever I see them riding naked on the ceiling fan without any real explanation. Fandom usually doesn't do a good job with explaining btsks, but that spans across almost every fandom I know. Every time Axel's either some wibbly school girl who follows Roxas home every day because he's so KAWAII DESU NE~ or some obsessed rapist. Or a drugist, you can't forget that stereotype.

You know, I've heard from a lot of sources that people actually REJECT Axel appers in some RPs that don't have any interest in sticking Roxas up the pooper. I've actually seen one or two of these RPs too, and it's just... just...

Yeah I should stop talking even though I can go forever.

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Re: spoilers for Avatar: The Last Airbender

[identity profile] high-prosecutor.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
I SO agree about Avatar - Zuko and Mai are hilarious. Why the hate? Why?

SPOILERZSPOILERZSPOILERZ

[identity profile] devourthem.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Fandom: DDS: Every fic, art, and topic is about sex, almost ALWAYS including vore. dnw, thank you.

FFXII Fandom (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/chaoticchicken/Larsa_Basch_Gabranth4.jpg). Even though it makes me LOL sometimes.

Tales of the Abyss (http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i108/chaoticchicken/?action=view&current=ios.gif). lulz.

Canon:

KILLING ALL OF THEM OFF. ;~;

Re: SPOILERZSPOILERZSPOILERZ

[identity profile] bondofflame.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
.......... WHOA WHOA WHO I DON'T THINK I SAW THAT SYNC/ION PICTURE.

A++++++++++++++++++++++++ WILL BUY FROM AGAIN.

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[identity profile] whiteychan.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
"Canon," if I dare call anime-filler that, has made my poor little Toshiro into Captain PedoPants.

I can't hunt down a link right now, but oh, it's there, and oh, it stings like burning. :(


And I'm not in tune with enough of my fandoms to really be hurt by much of anything. Other people usually show me the wangst when it comes, and I can shrug it off.

Except for the Canon pedopants. *crai*

[identity profile] haiiro-no-chou.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
There there, dear. *patpat*

[identity profile] held.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
i'm going to go with kairi on this one. she is pretty much the most hated character in the KH fandom, anyway!

well, let's see. what has fandom done to my character? if you've heard of kingdom hearts, chances are you have heard of the sora/riku pairing. chances are, if you speak to a sora/riku fan, they will then proceed to tell you that kairi is a "slut" and a "whore" and gets in the way of their love. according to fans, she is the reason why sora and riku cannot prove their love to each other, because she is in the way. (i speak from personal experience. people have full on told me this to my face when i said i rped kairi.)

now, the people i'm really close to know i have a bad history with the hardcore sora/riku fans (yeah, i was almost kicked from an rp because one of the players didn't like kairi -- they played riku, btw --. i wish i was kidding.) the fact that the fandom goes off to call kairi a whore for no reason is just plain questionable, considering the fact that she hasn't even kissed a boy. the only one she showed actual interest in was sora, and that was so slight that it could just be taken in as a friendship way. the interest clearly grew in the second game, and yet it was there that also made the fandom explode. anyone remember the whole "sora crying for riku" thing? people then proceeded to take that as a sign that because sora cried for riku, it meant that he clearly did not like kairi.

thankfully, i have met some sane fans. but because of the bad, i am still wary to this very day.

and what has canon done? KAIRI HAD THE BIGGEST HEAD IN THE seriously.

[identity profile] blind-nights.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
LOL, IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER, KAIRI COULD PROBABLY KICK BOTH SORA'S AND RIKU'S ASS.

and Axel's, but that's a given.

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[identity profile] laverinth.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Ohohoho....

Naruto---- Okay... it's the Naruto fandom. This needs no going into. I could rip on the canon for being All Sasuke all the Time, but... I DON'T ACTUALLY MIND THIS! 8DDD;;;

Sai:
CANON - introducing this very interesting character, giving him one arc and then.... nothing. He just kinda stands around in the background now making one word commentary.
FANON - Focusing too much on the goddamn penis jokes. Dammit, man. He was trying to act insulting to Naruto and that was one of the best ways he knew how to be insulting to a guy. End of story!

One Piece: FANDOM - the way fans grab onto the more "attractive" characters, minor ones especially, and ignore others. But then, lots of fandoms do this. :P

[identity profile] sasuke-of-sound.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
IT'S NOT MY FAULT THESE KONOHA LOSERS CAN'T GET THEIR OWN DAMN PLOT.

mun: ♥

[identity profile] high-prosecutor.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
PW canon has only done one thing to make me cry, and that's THE ENTIRETY OF THE FOURTH GAME. WHY, CAPCOM? WHY?

As for fandom: Ok, ok, Redd White/Marvin Grossberg makes me cringe. So does Damon Gant, the SUPER RAEPIST. (I have a thing about non-con/rape - it's a major squick for me, so all the jokes? So not funny.)

[identity profile] clockmongler.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
HMMM well let's see.

Fandom? The poker-playing. :| All. The. Time. Yes, Luxord's a gambler, but I highly doubt that is the only game he knows how to play. I also doubt he'd use strip-poker constantly as means to get into someone's pant - he's hot and English, guys, I don't think he'd need a game to do that.

Also, he does not cry or have mushy-"omg, i luuuuuurve yoooooou" feelings. I've seen this rarely, but I've seen it still. Nobodies kinda don't do that. He's also not the nicest person in the group - he's as heartless as the rest of the Organization, or does Port Royal and his attempts to steal the hearts of an entire island not ring a bell? But my main gripe is how I can't really bitch much about fandom becaaaause...

Canon? You don't get to know much about him. He's there for like... five-minutes and that fails. Thanks, Nomura. Thnx. :(

[identity profile] famira.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
For Eddie Brock/Venom: fandom has portrayed Brock as fluffy and cuddly if he's even slashed with Peter. Instead of a dick with issues and just a generally flawed person overall, you either get this guy written as just a "MUA HA I KIDNAPPED MJ MUAAA *MUSTACHE TWIRL" villian or as Peter's loving boyfriend who 's happy just snuggling with him. As for canon, well, uh, it depends on which flavor you want: original comics, Ultimate Spidey comics, the SM3 movie or the 90's cartoon. Right now canon's raped Brock by making him have cancer out of the blue and for separating him from the symbiote in the main comics, made him suddenly be Peter's childhood friend(?!) who turns into Venom when he tosses on a suit made to cure cancer(?!). The SM3 movie had really barely any Brock at all, much less Venom (also, he went out like a TOTAL PUSSY D:), and the 90's cartoons had him just be kind of, uh, RIDICULOUSLY buff.

For Qui-Gon Jinn: a lot of fandom from what I've seen likes to either have Qui-Gon be Obi-Wan's manly man in shining armor Jedi robes, or as this perfect Jedi Master who can do no wrong and is always right, always perfect. D: I think Qui-Gon has a different outtake on the whole Jedi and Force stuff than more conservative Jedi like the Council, but he's hardly perfect, and I think sometimes he can be caught up in his "crusades" and get a bit self-righteous - just in a more quiet, Jedi-ish way. xP As for canon...dude, they killed him off (DAMN YOU WYNA YOU KNOW WHY FOR). Also, they didn't have any flashbacks or any Force Ghost in the rest of the prequels, which sucked.

For Clark Kent: I can't really say much about fandom, since I've only looked for icons, not for fanfics. But canon...okay, I get Clark has a major crush for Lana Lang, but after 7 seasons of it, it's kind of ridiculous and pathetically wishy-washy. Also, for a guy who's supposed to turn into this ace reporter in Metropolis, kid!Clark is kind of dumb as a nail sometimes and unable to figure things out on his own without running to people like Chloe. D:
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POSSIBLE AtS/BtVS/FFVII SPOILERS? :O

[identity profile] continuum.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
K, SO. FFVII. Fandom seems to turn Reno into a total caricature of himself and he ends up spending most of his time drunk, having sex, swearing every other word, or all three, and then it leaves you wondering if they even remember that he, you know, has a job. Or why Rufus and Tseng haven't collectively fired his ass if he's wasted and horny 24/7.

Fandom also has a habit of making Reno say "yo" every sentence, which he does not do ,yo. He doesn't even say it ever, technically, because some things in Japanese really can't be translated no matter how hard you try kthnx. See also: Tifa & the infamous zulu zulu dilly dally, my ass. *brick'd*

And, um, AC was iffy for me. I know some fans have complained he was OMG TTLY OOC, which I don't feel is an entirely accurate choice of words. I think he was IC, but it was only a part of him they showed, and they left all the other parts of his personality out -- although one thing that did irk me was how clumsy they made him. Squeenix did make it up with BC because he's much more fleshed out and closer to his game-canon self in BC. But AC in terms of fandom spawned a huge amount of fics from people who based Reno's character only on the movie which completely doesn't work since AC exaggerated his dorkiness by a lot. I feel like you really need to put both AC and game Reno together to get a full sense of who he is. And I'mma never forgive Squeenix for giving Tseng and Elena a grand total of, like, 30 sec. of screen time, voiceovers and ID cards included. Where is the love?! Plus, WTF happened to the "E" in Reno's EMR? Loz couldn't have possibly stolen all your thunder, Reno. >:[

As for Angel, Joss Whedon has not screwed with anything (in terms of his character, anyway; I will refrain from ranting about Season 4 of AtS asdjflsaj the Jasmine storyline WTF). Fandom has done many, many things to Angel, including having him pine continuously for Buffy and portraying him with zero sense of humour, which is just sad (no pun intended) because the guy can be pretty funny sometimes, whether intentionally or not. He's not a ball of angst, contrary to popular belief. I see a bit of a parallel between Angel and FFVII's Vincent when it comes to fandom because both characters can have a darkly dry sense of humour, but fandom just goes LOL WHAT HUMOUR? and makes them brood and angst all day long.

As an Angel/Spike reader and fic'cer, I do wish fandom would remember that as much as some may dislike Buffy, Darla, and/or Dru and think that Angel and Spike are OTP 4EVAR, those were important girls in both their lives. Spike got a SOUL for Buffy, for Chrissake, and stayed with Dru for over a century even though she was nuts. It sucks to see the women completely unacknowledged or, worse, bashed.

k, I'll shut up now. :[ Leaving FAKE out because FAKE is cool all around and I need to stop the babbling. XD;
ext_20895: (SpikeAngel; so mature)

Re: AtS

[identity profile] sarrasi.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
AGREED ON ALL POINTS including Season 4 asdfjlskdf. The whole hating on/ignoring women for the sake of an OTP thing is so common it burns. They either ignore that whole side of the character or ANGST ON ENDLESSLY about unrequited love until the magical healing buttsecks.

P.S. Angel has an awesome sense of humor. ♥ DDD:

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Spoilers, you've been warned :p

[identity profile] not-rly-fai.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Bleach (Gin):

F:
I hate that people think just because there is little known about his character, that his motivations must be shallow and dumb(or he's ttly getting Aizen btsks). If that were the case, they would have revealed his reasons by now (Helloo Tousen ring a bell?). There's a lot of little things in the manga that most people don't even bother to look at that can give you insights to his character, but most don't take time for it. *shrug* I dunno, I've just read too many fanfics that weren't well researched and it seems like people aren't sure quite how to portray his character.

Pairings... I think this is true of every fandom though... I feel like there IS sufficient backing fort Gin x Ran using *gasp* pieces of the manga. We've got the childhood friend thing, went to the academy together, and... She's the ONLY person he apologizes to! And Gin x Hitsugaya scares me. Or Hitsu x Gin.

C:
Well yes, the fillers... (Though, I really am amused by the "Arrancar Corner" Gin-Sensei hosts in place of Radio Kon...)

The only thing I can really complain about with the manga though is that I want more info. We've only seen backstory on him from Rangiku's pov and that showed us that he wasn't so bad, but it just leads to more questions.

And how come no one dies in Bleach? D: Huh?! I think the Arrancar guys are the first ones to actually DIE and stay DEAD thus far.

D.Gray-man (Allen):

Fandom: Pairings again... Why do I always feel like I'm in the minority for liking the het couples? I think people forget that this story takes place in the late 19th century. People just didn't bring up that sort of thing was kind back then, not to mention they all work for the Vatican. So unless it was creepy priest/altar boy slash... it probably wasn't happening. Though it doesn't explain Jerry(the cook at the Black Order)...

Ravi? Not supposed to get attached to anyone. Kanda? Yeah, there might be a sex drive in there somewhere. if you can get past the hatred for all things living. Allen? is really the only one who shows interest in someone and guess who it is? Rinali. Even at that, Allen is most concerned with helping his friends and I think he's just barely starting to notice the difference between a friend and a lover. Plus he's British D:

OH. And Allen =/= weepy uke. End of story.

Canon:

Characters with immunity to status effect: Death! Lol... so maybe it's not as bad as in the Bleach manga, but how many near-death experiences can one person get through? Granted, they do kill off a TON of other characters...

Tsubasa - Fai -

Fandom:

I actually don't have much on this one... I'm not into the "fandom" aspect enough to notice much. Though it's one of the few series where the male x male pairings that the fans like don't bother me because it seems pretty canon to me. But that doesn't mean I think Kurogane's gonna jump Fai anytime soon either... Fai has waaaaay too much baggage to get in a relationship easily anyway...

Canon:

OMG WHY DO YOU HATE US CLAMP?! They just had to find competition for Subaru-levels of angst... D: gaaaah... Then there's clones, clones and moar clones. Come on CLAMP, let's try something new now. D: How many times can you shank Sakura in one series? Geez...

Fruits Basket - Kagura:

Fandom:

I've got no intentions of shipping Kagura with Kyo because it becomes obvious in the canon their relationship isn't like that, but... both sides kind of bother me. Some people rub it in the faces of the other fandoms that so-and-so is with so-and-so. D: (Though it kind of bothers me too when people disregard canon and have fics or art with Kyo and Kagura together.) O_o can't make up my mind.

Canon:

I don't really have any complaints... just that it was kind of sad that she's one of the only ones not to end up with someone at the end. Though she and Momiji were funny little cohorts...

[identity profile] laverinth.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
lol Bleach and death... If you think that's bad, you should see the lack of death in One Piece. The only time anyone dies is in backstory. Hell, Pel got blown up while carrying a bomb and still lived through it!

The D. Gray-man fandom baffles me, but I've only just stepped into it. I'm now always grumbling about the lack of Crowley in icons or whatever. And I definitely know what you mean about het. I come from the Naruto fandom, after all. :P

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Mmm not much I can say I dislike about Higurashi no ku Koro ni fandom, except for the Hanyuu thing. It's actually a really fun fandom to be in if you don't mind cute girls killing each other and stuff.

... That one doujin that had Satoshi banging Mion in it though... can never forget :((((

Canon, though... Well I won't spoil anything, but I happen to hate the last two episodes of Kai aka season two. sob that arc was where Mion really showed her stuff too. ToT//

[identity profile] usoppsenchou.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
One Piece:
Fandom: Usopp nose doujinshi, although it also amuses me in a sort of dark way. But still. It doesn't really look like 'that'. If your 'that' looks like his nose, see a doctor, something is wrong.
For not-my-characters, I like ZoSan perfectly fine, I like almost any pairing fine, but OP fandom has waaaaay too much of it considering how many other possibilities there are.
Canon: Mostly fillers, which manage to insult Usopp in incredible ways, although the rest of the crew also forget what they can do most of the time. "What, an ordinary human being?! With guns?! I've never faced something as scary as that!"

Slayers
Fanon: Xelloss getting all weepy touchy feely.
Canon: Eh... sometimes the art style annoys me. Xelloss's hair changes weirdly. >.>;

Vorkosigan Saga
Fanon: Very small fandom. I would have to investigate it more to get mad at it.
Canon: Not enough Mark! Mark is more interesting to me than Miles at this point. More Mark! Yeah, that's just self-serving.

..... Not sure if I can say this yet, but... Danny Phantom canon, season three, nothing more needs be said for anyone who knows the series. Okay, and fandom making Vlad into either a rapist or a super-nice guy, and forgetting that he has a sense of humor.

[identity profile] bored-narrator.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing at all needs to be said about the DP fandom.

They could very well rival the HP fandom in FUCKING BATSHIT.

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Obviously I have not done enough lurking when I say Persona 3 fandom hasn't done anything to make me facedesk myself into oblivion... Well, aside from the doujinshi and other questionable fanart that's out there, but I think every Japanese fandom has that.

Canon has not done much failing for me either, except with the lots of lacking of details I'd very much like to know about :( I kinda wish the animated cutscenes had better quality to them, IMO some of them were somewhat... eeeeh D: Overall I have no real issues about the game.

[identity profile] for-marian.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not at all familiar with the fandoms for my characters (I haven't read any fanfic in about six years, except the veryveryvery occasional piece written by a friend), so I can really only comment on the canons.

Weiss Kreuz: Ahahaha. THE SCHWARZ DRAMA CDS ARE MADE OF SO MUCH FAIL. Sally. Nagi chirping about looo~ve. Schuldig resorting to attempted rape of one of his teammates' girlfriends. W. T. F.

Tales of Destiny: Honestly, no complaints about the canon except that none of the remakes/sequels have been localised.

Tokyo Babylon/X: My main complaint about the canon is that it, you know, DIDN'T END. Fucking hell, CLAMP, finish what you start!

Suikoden V: Nope, no complaints whatsoever. ♥

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My main complaint about the canon is that it, you know, DIDN'T END.

Word. I hate it when that happens. Though I guess at the time, they had a good reason.

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Yami no Matsuei (Hisoka):

Fanon: Where do I begin? I hate how Hisoka is portrayed as some emotional basketcase 99.9% of the time. Out of the whole series he has cried only, what... two, three times? This does not mean he's going to run into Tsuzuki's arms and confess all his dark secrets.

Hisoka is not suicidal. Just no. Hisoka is not going to fall in love with Muraki. NO. Hisoka is not going to fall in love with Oriya, either (he's friends with the enemy, for the love of all things holy!). He is not going to get a cat that suspiciously looks and acts just like Tsuzuki/Watari/*insert other half of favorite pairing here* and confess all his secrets to them just before they turn back to normal and fall madly, deeply in love. HE DOESN'T KEEP A DIARY. On the topic of love, Hisoka has way too much emotional baggage to deal with to jump into a relationship with anyone and this is doubly so if he does not trust them.

UGH. The list goes on.

Canon: I'm actually quite content with the canon...

(Oriya)

Fanon: 1) ORIYA IS NOT MINDLESS. He does not blindly serve Muraki nor does he live for the sole purpose of catering to his every whim. He does have a mind of his own, but it should be obvious that he wants to keep Muraki happy, as well as safe, (not easy, mind you) so he's willing to bend pretty far for him. 2) ORIYA IS NOT OVERLY EMOTIONAL. Just stop it. He's cried, what, once? Great, let's make him some hormone-driven sex fiend! 3) ...He's not a sex fiend either. Does anyone recall him mentioning that he was not running the KouKakuRou because he wanted to? Meaning, he's honor bound to follow in his family's footsteps. Meaning, he isn't going to go out on a limb and attempt to seduce his BEST FRIEND and risk everything. 4) Muraki and Oriya are not sleeping together.Yes, there's enough subtext to sink a ship, and as much as I'd like them to be, they aren't anything more than friends. This is mainly because there's no way in hell Muraki, with his mentality, would be able to hold a decent relationship at all. Oriya waits for him, sure, but Muraki is no where near ready to come back.

Canon: ...All I can say is backstory, wherefore art thou??? That, and Oriya needs to show up more often.

Night Head Genesis (Naoya):

Fanon: Fanon is actually pretty okay, but that might be because this series is so nonexistent that the fanon remains sane. And realistic.

Canon: I'm mainly just grumpy over the lack of backstory Naoya got, as a main character, too! All they give us is how he ends up being isolated with his brother, how long he was isolated, and how he and his brother escape. Otherwise, everything is up for grabs (for just about everyone else, too), which leaves the characters dull. Another thing, when something goes wrong it's because someone evil is using 'Mind Control'. A final thing is how Naoya's (and Naoto's) powers manifest...

Resident Evil (William):

Fanon: 1) While all us fangirls (and boys) out here want to see him and Wesker tie the knot and skip off to destroy the world together--William is not mushy gushy for Wesker, or Annette. For one, William is practically a sociopath (or really close), he isn't going to "give in to the fluttery feelings within" and run off with his "one and only". Even the thought of William having sex with Annette gives me the shivers (and that's canon!) 2) Wesker is not going to rape William. 3) William is not going to let him. 4) William does not cry, and if he does, it's because he WANTS something and has decided the easiest way to get it is to cry. Even then he probably wouldn't, with his pride and all (though he isn't above throwing tantrums).

Yes, this also go on as well.

Canon: My only complaint is that he was killed. And that he gets no screen time. D:

Re: SPOILERS

[identity profile] for-marian.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 07:24 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree with you on the matter of Muraki and Oriya, as a lot of people probably know. ^^ But I don't personally believe that it's any more difficult to maintain a sexual relationship than a friendship--quite the opposite, a friendship can mean a lot more to someone than sex.

Do I think it's an even remotely healthy relationship? Hell no. Muraki isn't capable of love or anything vaguely resembling it. But I certainly can see them being fuckbuddies. But I think this is in large part a matter of different views of sex--you say they aren't anything "more" than friends, but I don't agree that sex would be "more" than friendship--I think it can be part of friendship. So it doesn't seem to be their characters we disagree on, necessarily, but sex and friendship in general. ^_^

Not that Muraki is any kind of decent friend, either.

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[personal profile] gald_digger 2008-01-16 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
Tales of the Abyss: I haven't seen fandom do too much to Anise specifically (although there certainly is the odd fanfic/doujin) but when it comes to every other character? THERE IS NOTHING IT HASN'T DONE OR WILL NOT DO. Mpreg? Skullfucking? Two-year-olds having phonesex in a canon with no phones!? YOU NAME IT.

Admittedly, it's a fantastic fandom for someone like me who is addicted to badfic. I READ ALL FICS WITH THE PAIRING JADE X POORLY-CONCEIVED-MARY-SUE. OTP.

Canon: Not much, except that... Anise is like a big fat monster target in battle so I never actually use her even though she's my favourite character. D:

Slayers: oops need to finish setting up account for Amelia I haven't really been active in the fandom since I was like 12 and LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT THOSE DAYS. Also seconding the wtfing at people portraying Xelloss with feelings.

Canon: The localizations. They are all totally different, some are really... ew, many are incomplete--so for an English-speaking fan, it's just... bawwwww

[identity profile] chaoticchicken.livejournal.com 2008-01-17 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
...skullfucking between who.

OH MAN HAVE YOU SEEN THAT ONE DOUJIN WHERE PEONY JIZZES IN JADE'S BOOT :| Nasty stuff, man.

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Nanoha
Nanoha fanon is scary but they mostly leave my characters alone. I'm sure someone somewhere has made something of Rein's tentacles, though. I also think Signum gets portrayed as a bit too blind in her loyalty to Hayate sometimes, when of the Wolkenritter I think she's actually the least personally loyal.

Canonwise... Rein's death sucked. I mean, you're halfway through the last episode, nobody died, everybody is happy and relieved and its Christmas day and la la la... whoops time for some suicide.

Suikoden II
Sierra - canon - where's my Moon Rune? What kind of tease is it giving you a True Rune bearer as a party character and then not letting them use their True Rune?

Also, no translation of Suikogaiden sucks for Sierra too.

Loveless Spoilers

[identity profile] notachick.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
IT'S OKAY, TAD. The shift is apparently ending so yes. |D

MEMES:
Loveless
Fandom: Please stop making Ritsuka 17 so you can get around the no child porn thing. I'd rather see the development of his character between those years rather than the random "oh hay, pr0n" that tends to get churned out. Also, stop having him have pseudo-sex and not lose his ears. Giving someone head is STILL CONSIDERED SEX and yes, he'd lose his ears, dammit. :[

Canon: ...; ; Stop breaking my heart with how craptastic Soubi's life is. ;A; AND TELL US WHO THE LOVELESS FIGHTER IS. Or make Ritsuka a blank like Soubi. DX

Peacemaker Kurogane
Fandom: Honestly, I love this fandom and how nice and subdued they are. That said, I wish it was more active. D: I know the series is older, but come on, guys~ The one thing that hurts me, though, is when I read fanfic where Hijikata is an ass or Okita is a weepy woman. :[ He's girly, but dammit, he's still a man.

Canon: FINISH THE MANGA. I know it'll never happen, but for God's sake, you left us when people were spewing blood and everyone was in a hard place of dying. ...Maybe that's why the artist stopped. XD

Nightmare Before Christmas
Fandom: I'm not much into the fandom, but the idea of skeleton!Jack porn just...hurts me.

Canon: I want to play the video games, but I heard they suck. D: Can anyone confirm?

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[identity profile] nijiirono.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
WE HAVEN'T SEEN A NAME ON HIM YET. HE MIGHT BE BLANK.

Jack's got a boner XD Sorry. XD

[identity profile] melting.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Ashton:
Canon.. oh canon. There's this little thing called "Star Ocean EX" which happens to be the anime counterpart of the game. It rapes and kills everything that SO2 was all about. :3 HAHAH, I'm serious. Like, every character is in a creepy relationship (predetermined, of course) with another character. Ashton's obsession for Precis seems kind of pedo. He's also kind of obsessive with her in the manga, when in the game even the private actions involving those two don't seem romantic, like, at all. In the game, he calls her kind of cute once and then everyone's like "lol that's your type?" and he's like "UGHHHH DONT READ SO MUCH INTO IT." Like, everything SO2 except the game I .. well, I kind of hate. And I don't accept it as canon, either. Because it isn't my canon. *cries* I could talk about what it did to some of my other favorite characters (RENA *criiiies*) but that would be a little overboard right.

Fandom: WHERE IS IT!? WHERE IS IIIIIIITTTT?!?!?
I love and hate Japan for this. (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/misuchan/imagelove/boys/so2/diasxashton/natumi3.jpg)
This makes me hurt inside, though. Which is sad, because I made it. :( (http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/misuchan/hay.jpg)

Nami:
Canon: LOL I'm happy about Nami in canon :D
Fandom: I, uh, haven't been too deep in fandom yet, but I'm mad that there's not moar NamiVivi >:|

Peony:
Everything anyone has done with Peony ever makes me thumbs-up. Every. Single. Thing. Ever. >:| IF YOU CAN SHOW ME A WAY TO MAKE ME SHAKE MY HEAD ABOUT CANON OR FANON PEONY, I WILL EAT MY HAT.

[identity profile] clioheika.livejournal.com 2008-01-16 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I... I could probably direct you to someone with a lot of... errr, rated... NamiVivi. *cough* If you haven't seen his/her stuff yet. D;


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